"For instance" says Portner, "to me the song 'Flesh Canoe' is about my relationship with Noah at a certain time"
Lennox perks up, his eyes bulging out. "That's news to me."
"But the song is so androgynous and ambiguous about gender that anybody could listen to that and think I'm singing about a girl. It's not like the lyrics are written specifically like, 'Oh, I gotta sing this song to Noah.'"
"When we were recording it, you were kind of staring at me." Lennox says.
"And yet, I'm with this girl and it means a lot to me, and so I feel more connected to it in that relationship, rather than [in terms of] the lyrics that I wrote a long time ago," Portner says. After a long pause, he glances towards Lennox.