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Xx_Daddy_xX
good metalcore exists, but you right lol these bands suck (except for killswitch; aild also has one good album)
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JamuraiSack
Seeing Trivium show up in top artists is a testament to how much metalcore lost it's meaning
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PlayWithMorFeel
What was the original meaning of the term? Metallic hardcore right? Is it simply just a matter of many metalcore bands changing their sound into a more groove and hook based sound or are people using the term wrongly?
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JamuraiSack
It's just an ambiguous mixture of metal and hardcore punk. A lot of people forget that hardcore elements are a requirement hence the name.
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alter_ego2323
Столько посредственных групп в данном стиле, что из кучи говна сложно выцепить что-то стоящее.
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Outrageous88
Монитор помогает тебе чувствовать в себе силу и мощь, но мы то знаем, что ты физически крайне слабое и немощное существо. После того как тебе раскурочат грудную клетку и вывернут рёбра наружу, ты не умрешь, не надейся. Переливание крови и капельница продлят твою никчемную жизнь, когда твои внутренние органы будут болтаться в твоем дерьме, а твой девичий голос будет визжать о быстрейшем наступлении твоей собственной смерти.
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LawLieTicp
ok friends, I decided to listen to some of that "real metalcore" like Converj, Earth Crisis and Disembodied. It was a lot of garbage. The vocals were awful and the production was almost as bad as black metal. I'll stick to good metalcore like Bullet for My Valentine, We Came As Romans or Trivium thanks
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LawLieTicp
I agree 100%. The original post was meant to be bait. However I am a big fan of early metalcore like Converge, old Eighteen Visions, Earth Crisis, Disembodied etc however I grew up on and still love bands like Trivium, Killswitch Engage, I Killed The Prom Queen etc. I reckon the 2020s will have revivals of this and people will act like they love it and such becuase generally there is like 20 years until something gets revived
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JamuraiSack
I wish melodic metalcore and melodeath bands would stop getting tagged with metalcore.
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Kyllua_Zoldyck
yep, they're indeed different, but melodic metalcore is a subgenre, so, it make sense tag melodic MC bands under MC tag
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JamuraiSack
Better for that not to happen especially when people seem to think metalcore is inherently melodic despite it being a genre that has existed since the early 90s. It's meaning is almost completely lost now. A lot of melodic mxc is pretty far removed from hardcore as well and this is worth noting.
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bobo9390
Whether fans or artists will admit it, Grunge, Pop Punk, Nu Metal, Metalcore, and Deathcore all spawn from the same wheelhouse in terms of what demographics gravitated towards them during their respective peaks. Anyone arguing otherwise likely has a personal/nostalgic connection to one of those genres.
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Ms_Antrophia
"i wanna be tough" kinda defines what you're trying to express bro. Just sayin'. I'd rather be a faggot than, a supposed tough guy who can't actually be scary for shit.
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Metal-Nath
come like my facebook page for some cool metal music news and clips https://www.facebook.com/metaldaily/
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JamuraiSack
I'm more into OG metalcore like Converge, Earth Crisis, Integrity, Starkweather and Cave In as mentioned but I still consider metalcore and metallic hardcore difference even during that time period when it was coming about. Like Earth Crisis or Starkweather is "metal enough" to be metalcore as opposed to metallic hardcore so to speak.
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JamuraiSack
fxdxhxl never said it didn't come from the same place, I was saying they is a considerable difference (It's hair splitting but there is a difference).
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fxdxhxl
Totally agreed with ignitreaxiom and totally disagreeed with JamuraiSack about the metallic hardcore. It's different, but it came from the same place, while some tried to experimenting with the equal blend of metal and hardcore and some stayed because they did -they do, belong under the metallic hardcore genre. Isn't that what the description tried to say? Keep yourself calm, dude.
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ru1ner
The metalcore label is a catch-all for any band that is not progressive, or death. Sure there are still genuine metalcore bands, but it's such a misused tag because people fail to accept that metal as it was once known, has evolved in the past 20 years. Just because it's heavy, rhythmic and doesn't sound like the classics, doesn't mean it's metalcore. /rant
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igniteaxiom
last.fm really needs to start fixing their genres. metalcore and metallic hardcore are not the same thing, as i lay dying=metalcore, the ghost inside=metallic hardcore, and if you think those two bands sound the same then just don't involve yourself in the discussion (or listen to more music). futhermore all the top bands for metalcore are the same as the ones for melodic metalcore, and those two genres aren't the same either. and post-hardcore is completely out to lunch, 80% of those bands are either melodic metalcore or emo.
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